One of the pieces of information that I put in The Natural Mind was looking at the phenomenon of young children spinning to change their consciousness, whirling or spinning. You know, this appears at very young ages in all cultures. Every culture that I’ve ever been, kids spontaneously discover that by spinning they can drastically change their experience. Now, when I saw this it resonated with my own experience. I remember doing this as a child. So I’m interested in other people doing it. And then when I begin talking to experts on child behavior, and they tell me they’ve never seen this or there’s no literature on it, that’s the kind of thing that really catches my attention. This looks like something that’s pretty important. You know, what is it? Where does it come from? And why isn’t it studied? That was one of the pieces of evidence that I brought into The Natural Mind, arguing for an inborn drive to change consciousness.