There was one figure who was sort of like the grandfather — or the father — of the activist movement, named Larry Kramer, who was a very well-known Academy Award-nominated screenwriter, a playwright, an author.   And he wrote an article in the San Francisco Examiner, I think, the Sunday magazine section, which was just phenomenal. I still have a picture of it.  It says, “I call you murderer, an open letter to an incompetent idiot, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of NIAID.”  So I said, “Whoo!” That really got my attention.  But even before that, I was starting to listen to the things that they were saying.