Aretha Franklin: He went and he visited Berry (Gordy). He went to see Berry, and they met, and they talked. He didn’t feel that Berry had the kind of distribution that he wanted for me. He wanted me to have national and international distribution, and at that time, Berry was just a fledgling label really. He was not “the” Berry Gordy that we know today. Columbia was suggested to him, and it was to my dad’s liking, much better — Columbia — because they had national and international distribution and promo.