I think the driving thing was curiosity about the universe. That fascinated me. I didn’t think anything about being famous or anything like that. I was just interested in the concepts involved and to soar out through the unlimited amount of imagination and experiences. That’s what interested me.  Being invited to come to Flagstaff was a big stroke of luck. The other was pluck — not really realizing I had been preparing myself for that for years before that. Building that telescope, learning the finer objects in the sky, reading everything on astronomy I could get. And to be very careful. I was somewhat of a perfectionist. So those were the traits that made me a good candidate for this type of job.