I like to be alone, watching things, wandering around the forest, seeing wildlife, seeing an owl sitting up in a tree.  I just basically enjoy that.  That’s part of my character, being somewhat of a loner. But conservation is a step forward.  In the beginning, no, I didn’t think about conservation as such, but then, particularly when I went to the Brooks Range in 1956 with Olaus and Mardy Murie — he was head of the Wilderness Society, a well-known conservationist — and he said, “We’re here to do a bit of science, but especially, the precious intangible values of the area, it must be protected.”  I’ve been fighting for that ever since.