Gustavo Dudamel: At the beginning, we laugh, you know, because you know we were, we were making fun of the conductor in a way. But you know, in a moment, in a moment, you know, I saw Carrion’s videos that time. They were showing that at the conservatory, and he was conducting with his eyes closed all the time. So I was trying to — and then suddenly everything started to be very calm and people following and all of that. And I say, “Wow, what a power, a power I have,” you know that — And then I opened my eyes and then it was the conductor in the back of the orchestra, I said like, just, “This is the end in my musical career because he will, he will kill me, you know, because I’m imitating him, doing all of these funny things.” But he was kind of. I think he was surprised. I was, you know, I was playing violin. I was one of the first violins. I was concertmaster in the orchestra in this children’s youth orchestra. And he, he said, “No, no, no. Keep doing what you are doing, but you rehearse.” And I started to rehearse. He was sitting there. The orchestra was kind of surprised too, because they didn’t know how to behave to that. And it got natural. I left the podium. I remember we finished the first part of the rehearsal, and he told me, “You are now my assistant.” And I got my first job as an assistant conductor.