Gustavo Dudamel: Giulini, which was a very, I consider him a very spiritual conductor. You know? It’s true that he didn’t have a gesture, let’s say a beautiful gesture to show to the orchestra, but it’s something more than that. And I remember Lorin Maazel, which was a very important figure, because for me, he have an amazing technique in conducting, you know, this clean, beautiful, clear, powerful, all of that. And he told me, you know, there are conductors and there are natural conductors, and this is something that I will say, it is something very natural in your spirit if you know how to open that door, you know, and you have the chance, the opportunity to evolve in that space of understanding the real dimension. The real dimension is very big. It’s not only one dimension. All of this dimension that you have the opportunity to discover, this is, I think this is the secret of conducting, you know, more than knowing historically what you are conducting, more than knowing your technical things that you can tell to the orchestra. There is something that goes beyond that and it’s that, that unique connection that we can describe, you know, as spiritual, as metaphysical, as psychological, but it’s something that, that is the most wonderful thing that I think conducting, you know, the conducting life, half, you know, is this kind of understanding that that dimension that goes even beyond the notes that you are conducting. And, you know, I’m in this path, you know. I’m not anymore a young promise or a young conductor, I’m middle age already, but I consider that, you know, there’s a lot still to discover. And it’s amazing when you open that door and you have the chance to develop that understanding of what is conducting about.