This tremendous battle occurred within The New York Times between Rosenthal and the other editors, mainly the business side, and the main legal counsel for the paper. The outside counsel was a famous establishment New York lawyer named Louis Loeb, who told the publisher that if he published this material, the government would take him into court, and he would lose against the restraining order, and Loeb would not defend him! He would refuse to defend him. It was such an arrogant, incredibly arrogant thing to tell a man who’s running The New York Times and whose editors are telling him, “You’ve got to publish this material. This belongs in the public domain. We have a duty under the First Amendment to publish it. It doesn’t matter what these people say. You’ve got to publish it. That’s it.” The publisher, Arthur Sulzberger, who also was called “Punch,” the father of the current publisher, decided to go ahead and gave the editors their head. He fired the chief counsel afterwards. He fired Louie Loeb.