We were in competition with the American Football League, and that lasted until 1966.  Then I think the owners on both sides realized that something would have to be done, or the weaker clubs in both leagues might eventually fail.  So we quietly arranged a merger, and got a bill through Congress permitting the merger as being not against the monopoly laws. That was really the turning point.  Set up the Super Bowl, and so forth, where the winner of each of those two — they became conferences in the National Football League — the American Football League and the National Football League merged, and that created two different conferences, and then the winning teams met in the Super Bowl.