In the musical realm, I had Coleman Hawkins. After Louis Jordan, I began to gravitate to a more sophisticated — I might put it that way — not comparing the two, but Coleman Hawkins had a more intellectual approach maybe to music. He played a lot of very difficult things. So he really became my idol. I wanted to play tenor, and had alto before. So anyway, in the musical field, I would say those were my early idols — saxophone. I always loved Fats Waller, because I heard him as a boy, and I just loved anything he did.